In the latter case, Mindfang's interest in the number 8 may have compelled her to do so.
In some cases, such as that of the Ψiioniic and Mindfang's alternate name for Darkleer, the "Expatri8", these are transformed into eight-character words from words with more or fewer characters by the use of quirks or rare characters. Eridan giving Rose Lalonde the name “ fakemage pinkscarf ” in an attempt to make her appear more "noble" would seem to support this interpretation.Īs with the three-letter monikers used by Rose's Mom, Dave Strider's Bro and John Egbert's Dad, almost all of the ancestors in Homestuck have names spelt with eight characters. Though characters in Homestuck tend to have the same names as their counterparts across the scratch, it seems to be tradition for trolls to take new names in their adulthood Terezi Pyrope's ancestor Redglare, Vriska Serket's ancestor Mindfang, Equius Zahhak's ancestor Darkleer and Eridan Ampora's ancestor Dualscar all have new names, while other ancestors are referred to purely with an occupational title in cases such as the Summoner and the Signless these titles were used during the troll's life and may have been invented by the troll themselves, while in cases like the Dolorosa and the Handmaid they may have been applied by other trolls through legends.Īs most of the ancestors with proper names as well as titles are on the higher end of the hemospectrum, it may be that this is a tradition much like belief in ancestors that is practiced primarily by highbloods. Hiveswap's Trizza Tethis is an example of a troll who seems to be genetically descended from another troll, but does not share circumstantial traits such as a sign or second name. Given the heavy involvement of fate in Alternians' belief in ancestors, it is unclear just how much truth the concept actually holds in the case of trolls not born through ectobiology. It's more about being linked to certain figures of historical legend who share a lot of traits with you (like sign, caste, and genetic similarities) than it is about directly traceable lineage like it is for humans. And if these people are actually going to have any relevance to the kids, that means their culture needs to place some sort of fundamental importance on the idea of having ancestors, in a way that is compatible with their a-familial procreation system. So if any alt-trolls were sent back by Sgrub to live as adults, they would have to be sent back hundreds of years ago, which already begins to frame their relation to the players as necessarily ancestral rather than parental. Not only do the trolls not have parents, there aren't even any adults on their planet, and there haven't been for centuries. So if the same pattern holds, where Sgrub creates its own heroes as well as twelve genetically similar alt-trolls to send even further back in time to live as adults, then how does that actually work? What societal structure can this idea fit into, if the trolls don't have parents or families? In other words, we need some cultural conventions that allow for adult trolls to have some kind of relevant relation to kid trolls in a way that's compatible with all of the societal constructs that have already been established. It follows the same conventions we know of, but we also learned trolls are very different, and don't have parents or guardians in the same way humans do. Next, we focus on a new race of kids, which played the exact same game as tailored to their species. That established a convention for how the game seeds a planet with its own players and guardians. We saw that Sburb through its predestination mechanics supplied Earth with our four kid heroes and their parents, all at once. ”įrom Andrew Hussie's commentary on page 309 of Homestuck: Book 6: Act 5 Act 2 Part 2: ”ĭue to its folkloric nature, not all trolls believe in the concept of ancestors, with lowbloods “ less inclined to give a shit a8out that kind of stuff ” and Karkat Vantas describing it as “ A LOT OF SUPERSTITIOUS, ARISTOCRATIC BULLSHITTERY, INVENTED BY HIGHBLOODS SO THEY GET TO FEEL EVEN MORE SMUG AND SELF SATISFIED THAN THEY ALREADY ARE. You will find clues pointing to them and who they were, 8ut you will only notice them if your eyes are open ”, and “ ou then can choose to take up the life they left for you. When a troll discovers their ancestor, “ your destiny will 8e tied to theirs. Though finding out the exact identity of one's genetic progenitors is difficult if not impossible, trolls appear to believe in a sort of fate that ties ancestors and descendants together a troll's ancestor shares their sign, which apparently means the two trolls “ have a lot in common ”, and a lot of trolls believe they are “ meant to trace the footsteps of those ancestors ” and “ come across belongings they once had ” in the process.
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